FU Friday: Ahmadinejad

Today’s FU goes to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, President of Iran, after having the gall to criticize Gaddafi for using violence against protesters in Libya. I can’t say enough words about this one, so I just made a video instead:

This coming from the guy who had protesters in Iran killed, then made their families pay for bullets.

Fuck you, Ahmadinejad.

Here’s what he said:

It’s hard to imagine there’s a person who can kill his own people or bombard them. That’s really ugly. I advise strongly that everyone should allow their people to talk, and reply to their demands. They lead these people. How can a ruler bombard his own people then say, “if anyone speaks out, I’ll kill them”? This is not acceptable. People should have freedom and decision making powers in their own future. This is their right. I think everyone in the world is very shocked at what’s happening in Libya. It’s really bad. I think they should heed the demands of their people. But of course, as we know, anyone who doesn’t respect the will of their people—well, their fate is written.

The Climate of Faith

NPR ran this article about a scattering of islands in the South Pacific that make up the country of Kiribati (listen) that could soon find itself underwater due to the rising sea levels in part caused by climate change.

But there is good news—the former president, current member of parliament, and biblical literalist, Teburoro Tito, says it ain’t gonna happen:

I’m not easily taken by global scientists prophesizing the future … Saying we’re going to be under the water, that I don’t believe, because people belong to God, and God is not so silly to allow people to perish just like that.

Am I missing something here or is this guy completely delusional? He doesn’t think his god would be “silly” enough to allow a mere 90,000 people perish?

I wonder how he explains the 2004 Tsunami that wiped out 230,000 people. Perhaps Tito missed the Haiti earthquake that killed over 300,000JUST LAST YEAR. And let’s not forgot the silly 1931 China floods that killed millions! I could go on and on and on…

This biblical literalist has also, it seems, never read the Bible. If Tito believes the Bible is the literal word of God, he must also believe all of the mass murder and genocide committed by and ordered by God really happened. Let’s not even talk about the flood, when he intentionally murdered almost every living creature on the planet. Instead let’s name just a couple of the many other examples found in the Bible.

I Samuel 6:19 And he asmote the men of Beth-shemesh, because they had blooked into the ark of the Lord, even he smote of the people fifty thousand and threescore and ten men: and the people lamented, because the Lord had smitten many of the people with a great slaughter.

Deuteronomy 7:2 And when the Lord thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly adestroy them; thou shalt bmake no ccovenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them:

Better yet, just open the Bible and put your finger on the page. Chances are you will point to an example of God killing somebody—often children.

Silly God.

Secular Survey

Just wanted to pass on a survey I was directed to via the Cleveland Freethinkers. Christopher Garneau, a graduate student at the University of Nebraska, is conducting a study on stigma and secular individuals in the Midwest. Click here to participate. Keep in mind, this survey is intended only for Midwesterners.

Here is a message from Mr. Garneau:

Thank you for taking the time to read this research request. I am a graduate student at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln and I am conducting a research study on stigma and secular individuals (atheists, agnostics, humanists) located in the Midwest for my doctoral dissertation. I invite you to contribute to this research by taking part in my web-survey. The survey should only take about 30 minutes to complete. I want to ensure you that I do not have any means to connect your personal information or IP address to your survey so your participation will be anonymous. The data collected in this survey may be used for future research projects as well. I also ask that you forward this email to other secular (atheist/agnostic/humanist) individuals you know. This is a population that is hard to find and I need as big of a sample as I can get.

This research is important because it provides more information about a highly understudied group. It also contributes to identifying seculars as a religious minority in the U.S

Now enjoy this picture of Japanese Snow Monkeys chilling in a hot spring.

Express Yourself

Canadian televangelist Charles McVety, who recently had his show canceled for making some disgusting remarks about gays, claimed that his “freedom of speech was under attack.”

And he’s absolutely right.

The Canadian Broadcast Standards Council said in December that McVety violated national broadcasting codes. That’s probably true. But perhaps the Council should rethink their standards.

The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms in section 2 states (emphasis added):

Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms:
(a) freedom of conscience and religion;
(b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication;
(c) freedom of peaceful assembly; and
(d) freedom of association.

The Council took issue with McVety’s characterization of gay pride parades as “sex parades.” He also referred to gay events as, “malevolent, insidious and conspiratorial.”

He is , of course, an ignorant ass, but this is another example of freedom of speech being dangerously limited in Canada. This is the same kind of thinking that results in journalists being prosecuted for “offending” religious people. (Of course, the FCC in the U.S. has it’s own problems, but that’s a topic for another day.)

McVety has also claimed that he was not allowed to refer to a debate opponent as an “atheist” (not sure I believe him about that).

I don’t think it can be put any better than it was by Christopher Hitchens speaking in Canada on freedom of expression:

Eye for an Eye?

In a recent episode of Dogma Free America, they discuss a story about Britain’s Orthodox Jews being instructed by their Chief Rabbi not to be organ donors. (Side note: If you haven’t tried the Dogma Free America podcast, I highly recommend checking it out here.) In the episode, they consider the prospect of only allowing organ donors to receive organ transplants. This is an interesting idea—the waiting list in the US alone is more than 100,000 and this would surely help to balance the supply and demand, but is it ethical? I thought this would make a good poll.

 

Now that you’ve put in your two cents, have fun playing Organ Trail, the zombie version of Oregon Trail.

August 6 Terrorist Attack

Today Marks the 65th anniversary of the largest single terrorist attack in history—perpetrated by the United States Government.

On August 6, 1945, the first of the only two nuclear attacks ever carried out resulted in the deaths of 125,000 people (the vast majority being civilians) in Hiroshima, Japan. The second was carried out three days later in Nagasaki.

This is state terrorism pure and simple. If any other country did it to us, we would call it terrorism. We need to be able to judge our ourselves by the same standards we judge others if we are to call ourselves rational.

This “my country right or wrong” mentality is dangerous and bullshit. Just because America did it doesn’t make it okay.

I don’t buy that this was the only possible way to avoid even more people being killed. We can never know how things might have turned out had the US not dropped the bombs. But we can see what those in the know had to say (emphasis added):

General of the Army Dwight D. Eisenhower

“During [Secretary of War Stimson's] recitation of the relevant facts…I voiced to him my grave misgivings, first on the basis of my belief that Japan was already defeated and that dropping the bomb was completely unnecessary, and secondly because I thought that our country should avoid shocking world opinion by the use of a weapon whose employment was, I thought, no longer mandatory as a measure to save American lives. It was my belief that Japan was, at that very moment, seeking some way to surrender with a minimum loss of ‘face.’”

Mandate For Change, p. 380

“…the Japanese were ready to surrender and it wasn’t necessary to hit them with that awful thing.”

Ike on Ike, Newsweek, 11/11/63

Admiral William D. Leahy, Chief of Staff to President Truman

“It is my opinion that the use of this barbarous weapon at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was of no material assistance in our war against Japan. The Japanese were already defeated and ready to surrender because of the effective sea blockade and the successful bombing with conventional weapons.”

I Was There, p. 441

President Herbert Hoover

“I am convinced that if you, as President [Truman], will make a shortwave broadcast to the people of Japan – tell them they can have their Emperor if they surrender, that it will not mean unconditional surrender except for the militarists – you’ll get a peace in Japan – you’ll have both wars over.”

May 28, 1945

“…the Japanese were prepared to negotiate all the way from February 1945…up to and before the time the atomic bombs were dropped; …if such leads had been followed up, there would have been no occasion to drop the [atomic] bombs.”

quoted by Barton Bernstein in Judgment at the Smithsonian, p. 142

“I told MacArthur of my memorandum of mid-May 1945 to Truman, that peace could be had with Japan by which our major objectives would be accomplished. MacArthur said that was correct and that we would have avoided all of the losses, the atomic bomb, and the entry of Russia into Manchuria.”

The Decision to Use the Atomic Bomb pp. 350-351

General Douglas MacArthur

“…he saw no military justification for the dropping of the bomb. The war might have ended weeks earlier, he said, if the United States had agreed, as it later did anyway, to the retention of the institution of the emperor.”

Norman Cousins, The Pathology of Power, pp. 65, 70-71

And even if it were true that more lives would have been lost (and I’ve yet to be presented with solid evidence to support this), it’s simply not enough to say the ends justify the means and that’s that. We rarely accept that the ends justify the means when the means constitute murder.

For the record, I was of this opinion prior to having ever decided to live in Japan. So you can save the snide remarks about the Japanese “getting to” me.

(quotes provided by doug-long.com)

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PODCAST: Rich Orman


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Rich Orman, host of the Dogma Free America podcast, discusses religion, politics, and the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man.

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PODCAST: (Bonus) AU Speaker at CFT Meetup


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This episode is a break from the interview format. The focus of ITAS remains on the godless internet community, but on occasion we’ll switch gears a bit.

On July 3 I attended a Cleveland Freethinkers Roundtable meetup that featured speaker Rob Farmer of Americans United for the Separation of Church and State. Rob spoke with us about AU and both national and local church/state issues. I brought my Nano along so I could share it with all of you. Enjoy!

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Liberty and Justice for My Tribe

I’m sure we’ve all heard about the “One Nation Indivisible” billboards in North Carolina and their subsequent vandalization.

We know all about Michael Newdow’s quest to restore the Pledge of Allegiance to it’s former state, before Congress vandalized it in 1954.

While I support any effort to get religion out of my government, I would propose getting rid of the Pledge altogether.

Since Independence Day is here once again, and with all this Pledge stuff in the news, I thought it would be a good time to take a closer look at this chant.

“I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America,”

This is simply absurd. Why would anyone give allegiance to an inanimate object? It can’t punish you, it can’t respect you, it can make decisions for you to support, it can’t give orders. It’s a piece of cloth, a symbol—nothing more.

“and to the republic for which it stands,”

I reject your tribalism. This sounds like, “my country right or wrong.” This is the same bullshit religion pulls. You are a subject of this organization and therefore should remain loyal to it without thinking about whether or not you agree with its policies.

Somehow we get this idea in our heads that simply belonging to something makes us better than those who don’t. This is fine if we’re talking about a football team; it can be fun to pretend that your team has some absolute status of being better than another team regardless of win-loss records. The ramifications are insignificant. This doesn’t work when we’re talking about nations or religions or ethnicities. The ramifications are far too great. It’s the type of thinking that leads to people flying planes into buildings and almost an entire country thinking that dropping nukes on hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians is justified. (Lookup: overreaction).

Don’t get me wrong, I’m glad I live in a place that tends to respect human rights and not a place like China or Iran; I’m glad I live in a place that isn’t a total theocracy and not a place like Saudi Arabia or Utah. But we need to understand that there is nothing inherently good about America or Americans. There’s a whole other world outside our bubble and believe it or not, it isn’t all third-world out there.

“one nation under God,”

I see. Your god gives special treatment to your country and your football team. Aren’t we a narcissistic bunch?

“indivisible,”

Redundant. The previous line already said, “one nation.”

“with liberty and justice for all.”

Finally. Something we can take away from this useless chant. Something we can strive towards—as long as we recognize that all means all people. Not all white people, not all heterosexuals, not all Christians, not all Americansall people.

This phrase alone doesn’t really work as a pledge—more of a motto, really. So I guess we’ll have to do away with “In God We Trust.” And we’ll need something to take the place of the Pledge. I realize we already have a national anthem, but how about an official song? I propose John Lennon’s, “Imagine”:

Imagine there’s no Heaven
It’s easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today

Imagine there’s no countries
It isn’t hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace

And it’s written by a Brit. Happy Independence Day!

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Tea-Baggers “Meet” Atheists

According to this article, two ladies who appeared to be tea partiers attended a “Meet the Atheists” event in Florida and proceeded to disrupt the meeting. The event was hosted by The Atheists of Florida. The irony is that they were making accusations of intolerance while disrupting a meeting aimed to help grow the relationship between a minority group and the rest of the community.

Not that any of this is surprising, but it makes me wonder—what do atheists have to do with taxes?

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